Increasingly, what Groklaw seems to do

November 16 2005

Is talk about Groklaw.

Is this the way it's going now? Do we really need to plough through pages of
self aggrandisement to pick out or reach the actual content (if any) in each
post?

PJ, I wonder if you realise that people attack you for not simply sticking to
the facts because, quite demonstrably, you don't simply stick to the facts.

05:26 AM EST


Increasingly, what shills seem to do...

by PJ

November 16 2005

Look. I'll be blunt. There is a coordinated attack
on Groklaw's credibility. Maybe you can think of
a company or two who might want that to happen. It's
so-called journos and it's shills and trolls on
Groklaw and elsewhere. They often write they used
to like Groklaw but now ____ fill in the blank.

We'd be very foolish to pretend
we don't know it is happening. We will respond, and
if folks leave bogus, phony comments, we'll point it
out. And if they don't like reading Groklaw "any more",
they *are* free to stop reading it. Millions of people
don't agree with them. And I'm going to continue to
be myself.

01:31 PM EST


It's constructive criticism

November 16 2005

Folks, this guy is offering constructive criticism. You seem to be focusing on
the criticism part, but the intent is for it to be constructive. I think it's a
good point since the self promotion stuff only hurts credibility. Rebutals,
fine. But articles on Groklaw about Groklaw are painful to some of us. And the
tone of Groklaw shifts farther in that direction all the time. Let's save the
champaigne for the final verdict, not the half-time show.

But as with any constructive criticism: do with it what you will.

11:25 AM EST


It's constructive criticism

by PJ

November 16 2005

Hogwash. It's not constructive, because it's not
specific.

It's just smearing Groklaw. I believe there is an
orchestrated campaign to discredit Groklaw, and
I will respond to it when it's so obviously
factually wrong.

01:20 PM EST


Increasingly, what Groklaw seems to do

by PJ

November 16 2005

If you were more careful, you'd note we do it far
less than in the early days, and we do it principally
when we are unjustly attacked. I have a right to
clarify the record when unjustly attacked. It's either
that or sue them.

Groklaw isn't attacked because we don't present facts.
That is all Groklaw does is present facts, with urls.
Groklaw is attacked, because we are getting in the
way, because the facts we collect and present are
effective.

01:37 PM EST


PJ: Stop reacting to criticism

November 16 2005

PJ,

Long time listener, first time caller.

Your (and Groklaw's) credibility has been established. Don't dignify the armchair journalists by reacting to their criticisms. Right here on Groklaw, a poster is asked to ignore trolls. You've got to take your own excellent advice! :) Just beat on the facts. Take the high road. Eye on the prize. All that kind of stuff.

Thank you for what you are doing. Keep up the good fight - you (we) are winning.

Karl

12:40 PM EST


But Groklaw's mission is anti-FUD!

by JBB

November 16 2005

IMO, if PJ does not respond to her critics, she might as well just wrap things up and close up shop.

PJ has been attacked in all sorts of ways every since she started Groklaw. If she did not respond to the lies and slanders that have been launched against her then her good name would be ruined.

When people attack PJ with lies that are easy to disprove with the truth, it would be insane for her to not reply with the truth that dispels those lies. Her silence would imply that the lies were true.

I feel like I just fed a troll.

 

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Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.

01:09 PM EST


But Groklaw's mission is anti-FUD!

by PJ

November 16 2005

Thank you. I'm glad some do get it. Of course I'll
keep answering the attacks, as it seems appropriate.

If I remained silent, they are then free to destroy
Groklaw's reputation. Why in the world would I
wish to let that happen? The high road is how
I answer, not whether or not I do.

05:14 PM EST


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